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#79525 - 04/07/12 09:35 PM Spring Forest qigong and Kidneys. Please Read.
Antong Offline
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Registered: 03/29/12
Posts: 7
I have Kidney Yin/Jing deficiency, which has lead to me having problems with low blood sugar. I've also been balding very rapidly in the last year, I have large, deep dark patches under my eyes and look considerably older than my 25 years.

I am seeing an excellent TCM doctor and have done so for a while now, he has me on some herbs to tonify the kidneys. Unfortunately I have to take a low dose of the herbs for now as too much of it will interfere with resolving the rather sever Liver Qi stagnation I also have. So i take a combination of xiao yao san and kidney tonics.

I'm finding the Spring Forest exercises incredibly effective at resolving the stagnation/blockages in my body. I've also had a handful of phone sessions with Master Lin and Master Nance which have been great. I'd love to ask them for advice on my situation but understandably, they are always on a strict time schedule, and have to take the next call.

I'm looking for any advice on how to use SFQ effectively to heal my kidneys. Would it be useful to spend some time sending energy with Sword Fingers to my kidneys? Could I spend much longer periods doing the kidney massage and the tailbone tapping? There is also a powerful qigong exercise for kidneys i have learnt elsewhere, but i am apprehensive about mixing systems. Perhaps I could do it a few hours either side of SFQ?

obviously it is up to me to experiment, but it would be great to have some advice from others more experienced, as I have found that healing both a deficency, and stagnation, at once, can be quite a balancing act. Many thanks if you have taken the time to read this. :-)

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#79529 - 04/08/12 07:33 PM Re: Spring Forest qigong and Kidneys. Please Read. [Re: Antong]
Zakyrus Offline
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Registered: 03/26/07
Posts: 220
Loc: The Eternal NOW
Quote:
Would it be useful to spend some time sending energy with Sword Fingers to my kidneys? Could I spend much longer periods doing the kidney massage and the tailbone tapping?


You can do either of these. Of course, remember to 'heal *with* the Universe' rather than from the perspective of 'trying to heal it by yourself'

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There is also a powerful qigong exercise for kidneys i have learnt elsewhere, but i am apprehensive about mixing systems. Perhaps I could do it a few hours either side of SFQ?


Sure, just keep a bit of 'time' in between the exercises. Also, it would be very helpful to Self Concentration and Small Universe in the evening, if you can. (one after another if you have the time) These will assist you further with exponential results.


Also, the Kidney and Liver imbalances you are experiencing seem to be perpetuating one-another (perpetuate means to continuously cycle) Liver energy can become stagnant from excess anger or irritation or other 'heated emotions' and Kidneys can become deficient from fear, worry, etc. Spending alot of time worrying about a problem, often makes it worse. It may seem dire, but fortunately, we can solve this actually pretty easily.

The heart is a balance factor between the liver and kidneys, as well as the rest of the body. Spend a few minutes feeling 'good feelings outward' or feeling loving, and you'll notice how quickly either fear/worry, or agitation both diminish.

The Universe accepts emotions and feelings 'as gifts' from you. It takes these and multiplies them and returns them to you based on what they are. Make the intention to feel wonderful as you connect with the Universe in meditation, thank the Universe and your Source for you healing (even if it seems in linear time, that it hasn't happened yet) and your positive feelings will ripple outwards into the Universe, and return to you.

Don't concern yourself with the 'past' or mistakes you seem to have made that led you to this state. Maybe you are in this state so that you will master healing and help someone else who is even 'worse off' than you are now, and by being able to overcome this, you will effectively help them--more than you would've if you hadn't 'had to learn it'

Also, a useful herb worth checking into is Ginkgo Biloba.

I take this every day, it is an anti-oxidant, it expands blood vessels(allowing more oxygen to reach organs) and helps remove negative energy in the body, it even helps with aging and memory problems. It will help with liver, kidney, heart, intestines,...actually everything.

I *highly* recommend acquiring this. In the US, it should be around 9-15$ at walmart in the herbals and vitamins isle--depending on size of the bottle, etc. It can be taken with any medication and/or other herbs without effecting their function (in fact, it'll probably help them work even better) Of course, you don't have to take my word for it, look them up for yourself, try em at least once and see how they work for you.

Oh, and a little extra vitamin C--might go a long way. wink

~Z

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#79551 - 04/10/12 08:02 AM Re: Spring Forest qigong and Kidneys. Please Read. [Re: Zakyrus]
Antong Offline
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Registered: 03/29/12
Posts: 7
Originally Posted By: Zakyrus

Don't concern yourself with the 'past' or mistakes you seem to have made that led you to this state. Maybe you are in this state so that you will master healing and help someone else who is even 'worse off' than you are now, and by being able to overcome this, you will effectively help them--more than you would've if you hadn't 'had to learn it'





It's interesting you say this. I've often thought this, because I have always wanted to be a healer in some way or another. When I was younger i was very interested in learning Primal therapy. After experiencing the healing power of acupuncture/herbs, I became really interested in TCM, and have come very close to starting formal degrees in it.

Last year I got a rather severe injury which compounded my liver stagnation even more, and has been very frustrating. It was this injury, along with the emotional impact it has had, which led me to the earnest practice of qigong, and thus led to me finding Spring Forest.

I've often thought back to the scene of the injury and puzzled over 'why' it happened. I feel that as you say, it may have been to push me in this direction. Because I really like the idea of helping others heal, and as my own training develops it is something i'd love to do.

Experiencing the Phone Sessions with Master Lin and Master Nance has been amazing. I feel the energy so powerfully, and to think that it's happening from the other side of the world (i'm in Australia)!

Thank you for all your advice, it is much appreciated. :-)

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#79578 - 04/16/12 09:47 AM Re: Spring Forest qigong and Kidneys. Please Read. [Re: Antong]
Shawn_Grim Offline

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Registered: 10/17/01
Posts: 2927
Loc: Minnesota, USA
Hi antong,

Z made some good suggestions, and covered some helpful points. I'd like to add a little story and thought to the mix, since you asked...

At our annual October Learning Strategies Spring Forest Qigong 6-day retreats, we have daily, private, small-group lunches with Chunyi. During the lunch, participants are able to ask questions in a smaller group and receive more personal feedback from Chunyi.

At the very first 6-day retreat back in 2004, we had Chunyi scan each participant as they left the luncheon, and let them know what they could spend some extra time nurturing and sending healing energy during the retreat - their liver... pancreas... left side of the heart... whatever Chunyi saw.

What we found after the first two days/lunches, is that a majority of those "read" by Chunyi were talking to others about how they had a "blockage" wherever Chunyi mentioned, rather than visualize hat area as healthy, appreciated, and sending it even more balancing and healing energy during the week. Almost like their name tag changed to "Liver Blockage"..."Heart Blockage"...etc. It's no different than what most of us do with letting current or past situations be our name tag in life, rather than being in the now. It's the same reason the Paraliminal recording are so helpful, as they assist in cutting though self imposed trances and self talk that is old, is inaccurate, or doesn't serve us. So after day two, we stopped doing the "reading" by Chunyi, and focused on the importance of a healing perspective, attitude, and thoughts.

It's the same as when I assist participants learning and reviewing the healing steps of Level Two at the October 6-day retreat. When they are done, they ask their friend "Feel much better now." It's not so much a question as it is an expectation and leading -having them look for a positive shift in sensations in their body. If instead, they ask "Is your pain still there?" or "Wow, I felt this big blockage in your ____." That draws their consciousness and other-than-conscious to an energy form we just removed/balanced.

In the same way, there seems to be a natural draw of students wanting to know "what did you find?" "What did you see?" or to want to be worked on by someone who sees their deceased relatives hanging around, or cool visions and things from the session. Unless "told" by the universe, your master,etc. to share something with your friend when these things show up during the session, you bring it back to "we did a lot of great work," "your energy balanced really well," and if there is an exercise or two that can assist in strengthening their energy even more, share it.

So lets shift the "I have _____/_____ ______" to "I welcome all exercises and support for the energetic balance, health, and strengthening of my liver and kidneys." -save the diagnosis for your work with you TCM doctor. In Spring Forest Qigong we balance energy and heal, strengthen, and support each other with Love, Kindness, and forgiveness.

Much love, Shawn

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#79715 - 05/18/12 01:53 AM Re: Spring Forest qigong and Kidneys. Please Read. [Re: Shawn_Grim]
Antong Offline
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Registered: 03/29/12
Posts: 7
Thanks Shawn. I completely understand what you're getting at. I guess we all have a tendency to get trapped in identifying with our blockages/illness/imbalances in whatever forms they take. that's something i have been prone to doing. Another aspect of it is that i am simply fascinated with TCM/qigong/energy in general, and i like to ensure that i'm doing things in the most correct and effective way to enhance my healing. It's this drive that led me to do qigong in the first place, and then led me to look outside of the local qigong class i was attending and eventually find Spring Forest (as i felt that the qigong i was doing previously was doing little to heal my injury).

As i do not have the opportunity to speak to Master Lin or Master Nance at length about these things, i guess i was posting to try and dig a little deeper into what i could do for my own healing. reading back on it it's clear i was in a bit of a more negative place at the time, and was worried. the rapid hair loss/dryness of my hair is what had me really concerned me about my kidneys. my TCM doctor now seems to think it is more due to the intense liver qi stagnation/blood stasis from the injury, which is a bit of a relief.

i've began doing the sword fingers healing on my injury and related areas and have been blown away by the results. i can feel things moving a lot more now. i have been doing each part of the sword fingers healing for considerably longer than is demonstrated on the dvd, just to really get deep into the process and feel the energy. i'm guessing this is ok? it feels right. i've kept the palm/healing energy at the end to just 9 times, as i thought it might be unwise to put too much energy back into the area. or could i do that section for an extended period as well? i'm aware that many of my questions/ideas about qigong are basically just "stabs in the dark" as i'm a beginner, but any guidance along the way is really appreciated, as i'm just trying to feel my way through it as i learn.

thanks again

Anton

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